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Paul
asked 4 years ago
When I update posts, a copy goes on appropriate post pages, of course, as we ll as on a static front page. After updating and publishing, even after I purge everything from the stack cache and clear browser histories, the updated front page, when accessed on any browser, doesn’t come up for ages. Make that hours, at least. As I write this, I’ve been waiting almost three hours for the updated front page to appear. And this is the scenario no matter how many times I purge the stack cache on returning to the wp-admin website. Curiously--to me, at any rate--even though the updated front page doesn’t come up, the updated posts do come up, through the menu (even on the front page), on the non-static pages. If it matters, there may be somewhat more content, especially images, on the static page than on individual post pages, though I delete material from it regularly. I just tried the website again. The update finally took hold . . .
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Paul
replied 4 years ago

For some inexplicable reason (to me, anyway), the finally updated static page I referred to in closing the previous question has reverted to the un-updated version on all four thoroughly cleansed browsers. I’m positive that when I accessed the updated version on a newly called-up Firefox, it was not in the WP-admin mode . . .

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Shawn Hesketh answered 4 years ago
Hi Paul, I'm confident this is not a problem with WordPress; this sounds exactly like a caching issue. You said you cleared the “stack cache.” Are you referring to the cache on your web server? You also said that you cleared your web browser's history. But did you clear its local cache? Those are completely separate functions. It's a little tricky to diagnose without seeing your website, so I'm just guessing here. But based on what you've described, this sounds like a caching issue to me.
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Paul
answered 4 years ago
The recalcitrant website is LitchfieldMonitor.com. The more readers and correspondents, the merrier. I hope they're patient. Global edge, development mode, dynamic, image, CSS, Javascript caches on webhost have been deactivated since way back when. I purge stack cache on WP dashboard after every update; and after several minutes and a possible browser-history dump, everything usually is fine. Today I even purged the Firefox cache. I don't normally use the other browsers. Post pages came up updated, but not static page. And fifteen minutes ago, after several hours of frustration, the website finally appeared to have updated. It was fine on Firefox on my desktop and Firefox on my mobile phone, on which I had never before called up the website. (I don't use the phone too often.) And I had just finished typing my comment expressing thanks and relief because the website was finally displaying the updates on the four browsers. Then, just for the fun of it, I went to LitchfieldMonitor.com in a new window. And, sure enough, I got the pre-update website. Same on my laptop (with purged cache and browsing history), but not on my phone. So what is going on? Is it all the browsers or WP?
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Paul
answered 4 years ago
Before going out tonight, I tried LitchfieldMonitor.com on the desktop again. Same non-update as I closed my previous comment with. As for my mobile phone, which is not synced to my desktop, the updated website appears in Firefox regular mode without clearing of any sort, but the pre-updated website appears in private mode. Now I'm out . . .
Shawn Hesketh replied 4 years ago

Is your most recent blog post titled, “Inauspicious start with Barclays”?

If so, I’m currently seeing that on the homepage, just below the headline, “Daily Dose Over the Fold.” Is that correct?

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Paul
replied 4 years ago

Yup, the Barclays bit is it. This morning’s post went through on all fronts even without dumping the cache. May it ever be thus. But it probably won’t be.

So now to areas that may be beyond the scope of WP101, but what the hell. I’ve never seen this problem dealt with in WP courses. Am I looking in the wrong places?

About a fortnight ago, I couldn’t access any of my websites for the better part of a day. Neither could my neighbors, using the same Altice server. Nor, in fact, could I access my webhost in London. I texted him and he insisted everything was fine at his end. (Should I believe him?) Then my son put me on his VPN (out of Texas, you’ll be happy to know) and my websites came in fine. But not my webhost. My friends at Town Hall, on a different server, also were able to access my websites but not my webhost. All the while, by the way, I had full WP admin access to my websites.

By the time the sun went down, everything, including the webhost, was accessible. With and without VPN. So I forgot about it. Oddly enough, though, Town Hall could not access my webhost till the next morning, even though I could, and even though it could access my websites.

Am I correct in assuming, first, that a website and the WP admin access to it are in fact different, discrete websites (URLs?) with some sort of links? APIs, perhaps (see below)? And, second, that every page of a website is in essence a discrete website?

That could explain why my posts were accessible to me and other local Altice broadband customers yesterday, but not my home page. But why would the access have been on and off? And why not for an entire website?

Late last night, on my tablet, which could not access the updated static page even though my mobile phone could, I found an error message in the WP admin site health area (which indicated good health) for Application Programming Interface. I can’t recall what I did (or if in fact I did anything), but the API error message disappeared and hasn’t returned. Yet. Could that have been the problem? Or is the problem with my webhost?

And would it be advisable to reactivate all the webhost’s caches I’ve deactivated?

I’d keep my fingers crossed, but it interferes with typing . . .

Shawn Hesketh replied 4 years ago

There is definitely something squirrelly going on with your site, and I would recommend you reach out to your web host to sort it out. It still sounds like there’s something wrong with the server-level caching, and only your web host will be able to troubleshoot that for you.

To your question, no, your website and WP admin area are not separate websites. They do have a different URL; in fact, every page on your site has its own URL. But your entire WordPress installation sits on one server at one web address. So that does not explain why you’re experiencing the issues with your homepage not including new posts when they’re published.

Finally, you mentioned an API error in your Site Health screen. It sounds like you may be referring to the REST API, which WordPress (and other applications) use to communicate with the server on which your site resides.

Even though WordPress reports this as a critical error, it actually doesn’t affect functionality of your website at all.

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Paul
replied 4 years ago

The good news is, this morning I published my update without even dumping the cache. No bad news. Yet.

Next time I have a problem I’ll get on my web host’s case. But, remember, he insisted nothing was wrong when something was wrong. That my website and the WP admin area aren’t separate websites also doesn’t explain the problem he insisted I didn’t have. Of course, I, my neighbors, and the town administration could have been hallucinating.

REST API is indeed what I was referring to. Even though WP reported the REST API error, the little green circle indicated the website was in perfect health. And when I looked again, the error message had disappeared. You say it doesn’t affect website functionality. So what does it do? And if it communicates with my server, couldn’t even a minor code glitch of a little digit or two in an unstable medium have caused my problems?

Shawn Hesketh replied 4 years ago

The REST API is used by the WordPress iOS application (as one example) to connect to your site. If you don’t use the WordPress app, you’ll likely never encounter an issue. Ideally, your web host should be able to resolve that error for you, but it sounds like you’ve had less than stellar support from your host.

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Paul
answered 4 years ago
Wow, that was quick! In the ideal world I shouldn't need any support, let alone stellar support, for anything. But for what I'm paying--70 bucks for a lifetime of webhosting of up to 10 websites--I certainly can't and won't complain. Yes, I know, you get what you pay for. But, as I think I explained to you, Shawn, before the public help forum, I'm playing with my blogs primarily for vanity, ego gratification, and (believe it or not) public service; not at all for profit. My ego isn't worth all that much. And I'm a cheapskate anyway. And, lest I forget, I'm loving every bit of it--even the glitches, which, though frustrating and irritating, are highly instructive (thanks to you) and considerably more enjoyable than when I was being paid for my writing . . .

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